#MadeWithDefold Jam 2023

astrochili · April 12, 2023, 5:34am

19 century
Alchemy
Visual Illusions
Electric Circuits
Manipulation Of Mass Consciousness
Trinket Merchant
Forest Folklore
Patashnik (Loneliness in space)
Do It Yourself

gameoffate2018 · April 16, 2023, 3:36am

Genre Mashup
Only # (Only 1, Only 2, Only X, etc)
Twist on a classic
Game within a game
Sequel to a game that doesn’t exist
Risk and Reward

Pawel · May 3, 2023, 4:19pm

Over 50 people joined our jam!

I added 5 more games to the pool of prizes to celebrate!

And as only 5 days are left, I propose a poll to vote for the theme!

There is a limit up to 5 themes in each poll (because there is limit on poll to have max 20 entries), but I would love you to differentiate it, so we could have only one winning result with most votes:

Theme for Made with Defold Jam 2023

Don’t Kill Anything
Death is not the End
In your head
Blindfolded
Parallel Worlds
Everything Breaks
Indirect interaction
Infinite gameplay
3-color palette
Portals
Escape
One life only
Survive
19 century
Alchemy

0 voters

Part 2:

Theme for Made with Defold Jam 2023

Visual Illusions
Electric Circuits
Manipulation Of Mass Consciousness
Trinket Merchant
Forest Folklore
Patashnik (Loneliness in space)
Do It Yourself
Genre Mashup
Only 1
Twist on a classic
Game within a game
Sequel to a game that doesn’t exist
Risk and Reward
Arms or guns?
X vs Y

0 voters

Pawel · May 3, 2023, 4:13pm

Great, because when I clicked to show results on poll end, I can’t see the results too! (It’s also great because I will be participating too, so it will be fair! )

So, immediately after the poll will end, I will make a quick announcement and edit the jam page!

Mathias_Westerdahl · May 8, 2023, 9:20am

Pawel · May 8, 2023, 2:08pm

Theme is: INIFINITE GAMEPLAY!

astrochili · May 9, 2023, 7:48pm

Day 2 (the 1th day was just thinking).

Started making a meditative landscape builder with endless gameplay. This is the first time I’ve ever drawn tiles (especially the layered tiles). The first progress.

All biome transitions are created by layering, which significantly reduces the number of transition tiles.

MasterMind · May 10, 2023, 3:16am

Day 1: was sifting through the ideas based on the theme . Nothing better than sticking an idea down on paper right away.

So far today partially designed a playfield , yet still need to map out where point trigger bumpers will be and also graphically where base lights will be flashing around the playfield before sketching the theme.

Thinking about how to best approach the collision , may try to create large polygon chunks or maybe grid slice the playfield into tiles and use that for collision and separated graphics most likely larger textures.

Not sure if I will finish this but very fun trying.

EDIT:

End of the day update, got the bumpers/flippers/gates etc. laid out now ready to build collisions and triggers for them in Defold tomorrow.

Pawel · May 10, 2023, 7:48am

My game is definitely inspired by Slender: Eight Pages. I was thinking about making such game for a while in Defold to check out how it is to make a 3D game. Definitely assets by @astrochili, @TheKing0x9 and @aglitchman are helpful here! I have though a lot of problems with performance, but it might be only on my machine and I can’t bundle the game yet So I’m pushing the project on Github, so maybe some of you can check it out and point out what’s messed up

It looks better with night lighting:

britzl · May 10, 2023, 9:09am

I’ve checked and I can’t bundle either. I’m testing with bob and it simply stops doing any kind of processing a while into the build. I will investigate!

britzl · May 10, 2023, 9:52am

Ok, so we fail to load assets/trees/zombie2.dae for some reason. I’ll continue digging into this.

Also, I noticed that you have you have two missing files:

ERROR example/objects/backroom.go:0 the component '/assets/trees/backroom.model' can't be found
ERROR example/objects/deadtree1.go:0 the component '/assets/trees/deadtree1.model' can't be found

britzl · May 10, 2023, 10:18am

Ok, it gets stuck when trying to build an optimized set of triangles here:

github.com

defold/defold/blob/dev/com.dynamo.cr/com.dynamo.cr.bob/src/com/dynamo/bob/pipeline/ColladaUtil.java#L837-L851

    
      
          for (int i = 0; i < mesh.triangles.count*3; ++i) {
              MeshVertexIndex ci = new MeshVertexIndex();
              ci.position = position_indices_list.get(i);
              ci.texcoord0 = texcoord_indices_list.get(i);
              ci.normal = mesh_has_normals ? normal_indices_list.get(i) : 0;
              int index = optimize ? shared_vertex_indices.indexOf(ci) : -1;
              if(index == -1) {
                  // create new vertex as this is not equal to any existing in generated list
                  mesh_index_list.add(shared_vertex_indices.size());
                  shared_vertex_indices.add(ci);
              } else {
                  // shared vertex, add index to existing vertex in generating list instead of adding new
                  mesh_index_list.add(index);
              }
          }

Or actually, it doesn’t get stuck, it just takes a long time. The model in question consists of around 425k triangles, and that loop takes a very long time to complete…

Mathias_Westerdahl · May 10, 2023, 11:45am

425k does sound a bit like overkill. It should still work though.

However, I consider our Collada importer to be deprecated.
I recommend converting the model into a .gltf/.glb format. You can probably do it with Blender.

Pawel · May 10, 2023, 11:40am

I’m really not into 3D, but really wish to make it I will do my best afternoon, there are models in glb, gltf and perhaps I would switch to them, I will clean up first unused models and then replace this high poly zombie Thank you so much for the findings!

Klear · May 10, 2023, 11:48am

I’m going to sit this one out - I have too much stuff going on right now - but I’m looking forward to playing what you come up with!

britzl · May 10, 2023, 11:51am

It works but it is really slow (~25 minutes).For each iteration it creates an object and does a bunch of list operations. I’m sure it can be optimized significantly. But as @JCash said, we’d prefer if we could deprecate the Collada importer altogether (in favor of glTF).

Related ticket: https://github.com/defold/defold/issues/4434

The quick fix if we decide to keep the importer around is to not optimize meshes and let the developer do it outside of the Defold build pipeline.

Mathias_Westerdahl · May 10, 2023, 12:13pm

Personally, I’d try opening it in Blender and then exprt it as .glb.

anon95708182 · May 10, 2023, 12:18pm

Now that is one handsome zombie and huuuuge, way too large to use for a game.

You don’t need to replace it if you don’t want to - as @Mathias_Westerdahl said, Blender can export to this format - I have just tried this and the file has shrunk to about a quarter just by doing so.
Screenshot 2023-05-10 at 13.57.32

Also, you can decimate this mesh by a very large amount with help of the decimate modifier - I quickly did reduce it to 10 % and it still looks good - but you will need to clean up a bit afterwards.
Screenshot 2023-05-10 at 13.58.41

Pawel · May 10, 2023, 1:16pm

Thank you guys! How do you know how many polygons a model have? I was looking for “low poly” models, but I don’t think 420k is low poly, right?

EDIT: Exported it to glb (after Decimating to ~25%) → not only it loads faster, but I also managed to get textures xD Thank you @anon95708182 !

anon95708182 · May 10, 2023, 1:25pm

Nope, this is certainly not a low-poly human figure. I’d say, a couple of thousand vertices would be, hm, maybe 3000 or so if it should look detailed enough?
If your source doesn’t tell you the amount of vertices etc, Blender does on the bottom right side:
.