# Why a new editor?

**URL:** <https://forum.defold.com/t/why-a-new-editor/29163>\
**Category:** Questions\
**Created:** [September 12, 2018, 2:34pm UTC](https://forum.defold.com/t/why-a-new-editor/29163 "2018-09-12T14:34:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![boniatillo](https://forum-defold.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.defold.com/boniatillo/32/10639_2.png) [@boniatillo](https://forum.defold.com/u/boniatillo)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 2:34pm UTC](https://forum.defold.com/t/why-a-new-editor/29163/1 "2018-09-12T14:34:09Z")

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Hi,

I am curious to know why editor 2 was implemented without Eclipse. I was googling for an announcement or forum thread but I cannot find it.

Is there an article that lists the reasons for the transition?

I am not a Defold user, I develop a game editor based in Eclipse and it would be great to know the reasons you decided to move outside it.

Thanks in advance  
Arian

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**Author:** ![amel](https://forum-defold.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.defold.com/amel/32/27475_2.png) [@amel](https://forum.defold.com/u/amel)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 3:00pm UTC](https://forum.defold.com/t/why-a-new-editor/29163/2 "2018-09-12T15:00:15Z")

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You can find a thread about this [here](https://forum.defold.com/t/clojure-and-defold-questions-and-the-lecture/23411) and a small article about why they chose Clojure [here](https://medium.com/@TechKing/how-we-use-clojure-at-king-to-write-a-game-engine-editor-d0c87c81965b).

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**Author:** ![boniatillo](https://forum-defold.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.defold.com/boniatillo/32/10639_2.png) [@boniatillo](https://forum.defold.com/u/boniatillo)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 3:14pm UTC](https://forum.defold.com/t/why-a-new-editor/29163/3 "2018-09-12T15:14:11Z")

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@amel Thanks for your quick replay.

Well, those articles are not what I expected. All points they decided to use Clojure, but it is not clear to me why it cannot be used with Eclipse, that runs in a JVM. I was looking for something like “our users want a prettier UI, Eclipse is ugly”. Or “Eclipse does not allow to do X”.

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**Author:** ![Mathias\_Westerdahl](https://forum-defold.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.defold.com/mathias_westerdahl/32/228_2.png) [@Mathias\_Westerdahl](https://forum.defold.com/u/Mathias_Westerdahl)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 3:27pm UTC](https://forum.defold.com/t/why-a-new-editor/29163/4 "2018-09-12T15:27:10Z")

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In short, the eclipse framework became a too big of a hurdle when it came to implementing new features and also when maintaining the tool. Upgrading it was also really painful, and we were stuck on a really old version.  
It became a very large and unstable project, and a big time sink for us, so we started looking for new ideas.

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**Author:** ![boniatillo](https://forum-defold.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.defold.com/boniatillo/32/10639_2.png) [@boniatillo](https://forum.defold.com/u/boniatillo)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 3:31pm UTC](https://forum.defold.com/t/why-a-new-editor/29163/5 "2018-09-12T15:31:47Z")

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It has more sense and is a warning to me, that I want to keep my product on Eclipse.

Thanks @Mathias_Westerdahl